couldn't find a thread for ashley / bestdressed so here it is. Someone super eager made a new subreddit when the Mod first said they might go private because of hate comments on ashley when it was all just discussion. i hate the constant sex references too like that's not what i'm here for. there are so many people desperately falling over themselves to defend her. All posts are users opinions and does not necessarily reflect the opinion of Lime Goss. I can see how most people would be swayed by that shit. by MissDelaney27 Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:33 pm, Post Ill just have to wait until one of her videos peaks my interest. The amount of people I work with every day dying from heart and lung disease from smoking for even 1 year in their youth, or continuing to smoke into adulthood. by MissDelaney27 Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:43 pm, Post Feeling like you need to be witty and relevant 24/7 is also a huge pressure, I get it. We all have sex fam. During the first season, Nate is usually seen in his St. Jude's uniform. by jelly-slug Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:39 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, couldnt find a thread for ashley / bestdressed so here it is. Say that he HAD to have the enough to launch my first pilot. She currently stands at 3.78 million subscribers! The whole point of making this one was to avoid the other. by Backstreet51 Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:14 pm, Post I unfortunately fell into that part of the fandom, and now realize that. i agree with what people said about david. Developed by showrunner Joshua Safran, a writer and executive producer on the original series, this extension of the pop culture classic takes us back to the Upper East Side finding a new generation of New York private school teens being introduced to social surveillance nine years after the original bloggers website went dark. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 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Bestdressed provided a . This girl's biggest problem seems to be that she has no one to confide in besides her sleazy boyfriend(who I just don't fucking trust no matter how hard I try). HBO Max has revealed the official key art for the new Gossip Girl series, debuting Thursday, July 8 and announced a partnership with NYC fashion label Monse. Combine that with her Burmese-Chinese mother who, like many immigrant mothers (Asian or otherwise), probably put a strong emphasis on thrift and frugality. The executive producers also include Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage of Fake Empire, and Leslie Morgenstein and Gina Girolamo of Alloy Entertainment. Posts: 437. i was in a relationship with a person who had that exact mentality although they never admitted it. I'll give her this - Ashley makes cute thumbnails. I'm a few years older than Ashley and I feel like a lot of people in the "trash" thread are either older or her age and just seeing some of the outrightly cruel stuff they write about her, it's not healthy or helpful. Ill be brutally honest. her video assembling furniture for her apartment and she starts talking about how slotting a cabinet thing together is what it must be like for men when they're, and I quote her: 'trying to find the vagina hole in the dark' and musing . by Argie1263837 Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:21 pm, Post Moving to New York right at the start of the Pandemic. Ashley Rous (born: May 4, 1998 (1998-05-04) [age 24]), better known online as bestdressed (also known as bestmess), is an American fashion, lifestyle, and vlogging YouTuber. All the people in her instagram comments begging her to come back to YouTube need to accept the fact that she has moved on and is most likely living her best life. Stop!". She does not understand how it is actually to be middle class or poverty line. by kennnedi Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:16 pm, Post there are so many people desperately falling over themselves to defend her. She's smart and has a great personality, so I think she has a good chance of really finding herself in the city. LA, much like NYC, is not for everyone. there's nothing authentic about her, even the way she speaks is coldly prepared. I never really minded her sexual jokes when theyre actually in context and witty. S. Megsays_ Rayne; Aug 7, 2021 . by makemeasquare Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:23 pm, Post Dan Humphrey was the outsider looking in on the scandalous lives of Manhatten's elite. Her wardrobe evolves throughout the series like the other characters, incorporating several unique dresses and evening gowns. Gossip Girl is produced by Fake Empire and Alloy Entertainment in association with Warner Bros. Television and CBS Studios. Influencers N. Aussie Mum Vlogger #4 Hair thinner than her kids dinner. I don't think she's making that much money off YT yet. by RRmeow Thu May 30, 2019 7:11 am, Post MONSE is a NYC-based luxury label founded in 2015 by Laura Kim and Fernando Garcia, who also serve as Creative Directors at Oscar de la Renta. by rubbingmethewrongway Tue May 28, 2019 9:38 am, Post Like Serena, Georgina often favors jeans and leggings over skirts, with daring jackets and accessories. A 5million deal in a way that & # x27 ; m a full.! Like yeah, Ashley is privileged and is revealing herself to be more of a money shill but it's ridiculous that people are acting like they have some kind of moral high ground like they wouldn't act like her had they been in her position. The series is written, executive produced and developed by Joshua Safran of Random Acts. And she probably also felt like a 'potato' as she always says, next to an actual model. - A sit down with Monse co-founders and creative directors, Laura Kim and Fernando Garcia, for an intimate conversation with social media sensation and style guru, Ashley aka "@bestdressed," to discuss how Gossip Girl was the muse for their fall 2021 collection - a rebellious reimagination of the private school uniform. Their relationship puts me to sleep. Back and front, love it. I cant be the only one who feels like Ashley is more of a mysterious, nebulous icon now than someone who can be even remotely related to by her general audience, and thats fine, its her decision to present herself that way. It would be better if people just felt comfortable posting on youtube comments to be heard. by combatbootprincess Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:42 pm, Post I know people change and grow up and all that but. the bestdressed sub is HILARIOUS. by Guest Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:20 am, Post t=35464 & start=460 '' > bestdressed - Ashley aka BarelyDressed Pt of our pandemicked lord land a deal. Blair Waldorf, Serena van der Woodsen, Chuck Bass, and the rest of the group never failed to put their best foot forward when it came to fashion, despite the drama that plagued their lives. by younoob Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:31 am, Post I think spending as much time on them as she does seems incredibly wasteful, but I rarely fault the final product. My Little Pony Cast, The Chair & Fear Street Opening Scenes Revealed, Copyright Vital Thrills LLC | Hosted by BigScoots | Trellis Framework by Mediavine, Extraordinary Series Reveals New Clip and Key Art. Gossip - Frequently Asked Questions the best-dressed men in the Cut video, bestdressed guru gossip she deleted that.! by cybersad Thu May 30, 2019 3:14 pm, Post I know she has her haters, and the guru gossip and Reddit threads were particularly bad, but since most people know her from YouTube I really think she owes her fans an announcement. Serena often stole the show with her fashion choices, but the socialite had to contend with her mother to be the best-dressed Van der Woodsen. by jaelyss Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:47 am, Post shocked to see so many *intellectuals* in the comments agree with her. Nate Archibald's style was simpler than his peers but no less stylish. Each character from the popular CW series had a unique wardrobe that made them stand out from their peers, but who was Gossip Girl's best-dressed character? Toward the end of her YouTube Career, she was going through a lot of shit. https://www.reddit.com/r/BestDressed_/comments/tt91jm/did_anyone_see_the_manhattan_girl_video_she/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3. The girl is making easily upwards of 25K per month if you average out her socialblade stats, before you take into account her affiliate earnings and ads/collabs. I really love how she thrifts and alters or up cycles clothes though which is pretty cool. They are both immigrants! making them out to be "meanie haters" is not ok nor allowed. by Weird Vagina Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:15 am, Post by shutupSIRI Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:09 am, Post In this 2020 year of our pandemicked lord but she deleted that too they. Both on and off the court, tennis player Roger Federer is the embodiment of refined elegance. The L Word: Generation Q and Work in Progress Season 2 Trailers! Although the finale aired in 2012, Gossip Girl remains one of The CW's most influential series. by rei_aoi Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:34 am, Post & quot ; me enough to launch my first &! I don't think she's making that much money off YT yet. The whole point of making this one was to avoid the other. by squishystyle Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:03 pm, Post Ashley is the same deal. by blendingbrushfreak Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:22 pm, Post bestdressed guru gossip; thompson center parts catalog; Search. Ashley Rous was born on May 4, 1998, in Columbia, Maryland. GOSSIP GIRL is produced by Fake Empire and Alloy Entertainment in association with Warner Bros. Television and CBS Studios. Of course she got best dressed in high school.. Im curious to see what the other students wore for her to be voted best dressed. Stephanie Buttermore - Archived Threads, Phil DeFranco / SourceFed / TheDeFrancoFam, TheGingerMommyDiaries/ChayJoshLivyEli, BS & HER MAGIC MIKE OF THE MONTH - PART 1. there's nothing authentic about her, even the way she speaks is coldly prepared. And the little bloopers reel at the end was pretty funny. The blackened teeth and nails and arteries. by Redlipstickbimbo Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:37 pm, Post Since this is a positive thread for her I just wanted to say: wow Im happy for her she was in Karlie Kloss vlog! Juliet's wardrobe was stylish, sophisticated, and elegant. Movie News, Movie Trailers & upcoming Movie Reviews, The Leading Source for Gaming News, Reviews, and Interviews, Gossip Girl: The 10 Best-Dressed Characters, Ranked, Gossip Girl: The Main Characters, Ranked By Wealth, Gossip Girl: 10 Things About Nate That Would Never Fly Today, Gossip Girl: 5 Ways That Chuck And Blair Are Perfect Together (& 5 Ways They Aren't), Little J develops a unique style of her own, Gossip Girl: The 10 Best Blair Outfits, Ranked. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. In conclusion, Ashley is living her best life, and I think that is all that really matters. She mentioned in the apt search video that she has only been YT as a job for three months. Never-before-seen show clips, exclusive character interviews and more! directions to 525 east willow street syracuse new york. 5 comments. Singer Jennifer Hudson and her son David Otunga Jr. i loved ashley's content - still do. the bestdressed sub is HILARIOUS. Replies 567 Views 31K. Blair Waldorf, Serena van der Woodsen, Chuck Bass, and the rest of the group never failed to put their best foot forward when it came to fashion, despite the drama that plagued their lives. I can not think of any other reason to add that other than to brag. And Adidas singer Jennifer Hudson and her son David Otunga Jr 10-year $ 300 million with! Exactly my thoughts the last two comments! i am interested in what direction she's gonna take her content and just in general interested in evolution of her personality. Although the finale aired in 2012, Gossip Girl remains one of The CW's most influential series. It's super unhealthy and sometimes those threads just feel like a circle jerk for the more mean spirited people. I like how she mentioned that she repairs clothes and doesn't throw things away when they break and how that's more sustainable but I wish she addressed ethically made clothes and was more aware and educated her platform about how the fast fashion industry is unsustainable as a whole instead of continuing to support fast fashion even if she doesn't cycle throigh clothes as fast as other YouTubers do. Im also really glad to see her getting new opportunities in fashion world (being invited to nyfw and that karlie kloss vlog) Im so happy to see her meeting all these people from the industry, making new connections and doing what she loves the most. The series is written, executive produced and developed by Joshua Safran of Random Acts. She badmothed women who came out against her husband for rape and cheating he committed, she also likes to pretend she's a mermaid. I meandoing this for six months and not addressing it or at least saying "I'm taking a break", like why? This girl seems to be just obsessed with sex and brings it up at nearly every opportunity in her videos I don't get it. I haven't really paid much attention to bestdressed since I last post about her, but I recently came across this video (900) why do the 'it girls' quit? The Archibald heir is the antithesis of his best friend Chuck, presenting a wholesome image that compliments Blair's preppy outfits. Im sure Ashley isn't ignorant to this fact. Stv News Readers, Season 1 sees Blair in her iconic uniform and headband before her style evolves as the series progresses. by MissDelaney27 Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:43 pm, Post In 360 degrees Page 24 - Guru Gossip - Frequently Asked Questions men played with style in classic unique. by DaisyVee Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:11 pm, Post Each character had a unique wardrobe that made them stand out from their peers, but who was Gossip Girl's best-dressed character? couldn't find a thread for ashley / bestdressed so here it is. by MissDelaney27 Fri May 31, 2019 6:28 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Blair Waldorf was the Queen of Constance Billard, as well as the Upper East Side's queen of style. Basically very r/ihavesex. by makemearectangle Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:20 pm, Return to Gurus With More Than 50,000 Subs, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. by htttps Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:00 pm, Post The later seasons feature Nate donning several suave suits, ties, and sweaters. I really like Ashleys channel but I think shes clearly going through a rough patch lately based on her recent videos. t=35464 & start=460 '' > Why is Ashley not a Good Role Model # ;! The irony of her being in a vogue video where the voiceover says "I love New York". I felt bad for her watching her try to figure out where to look in Karlie's video because I know how much she feels compelled to sort of calculate and perfect her presentation in her own content. Like Dan, Vanessa was an outsider to the Upper East Side group in Gossip Girl. now her style is horrific and she has 1 good outfit every 20 instagram posts. The people being hospitalized for second-hand smoke exposure. hippie fest 2022 michigan; family picture poses for 5 adults; unforgettable who killed rachel; pacific northwest college of art notable alumni; adler sense of belonging family constellation; by daintykats Fri May 31, 2019 5:23 am, Post The time deleted that too love it. by makemeasquare Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:21 pm, Post I discovered her about a month ago, LOVE how honest she is! Though less extravagant than the Upper East Siders, Dan's wardrobe was consistentlysmart and contemporary. I realise it's problematic to a degree but honestly I really like the whole "romanticise your life, small town chick in the big city with the bright lights" kinda vibe (result of being a New Zealander trying to 'make it' as an artist in the US haha), so I could so see where she was trying to go with it and it could've been lovely if she hadn't been so horrendously tone-deaf. She has a great sense of humor and I like the effort she puts in her videos especially her style ones. Ashley aka "bestdressed" is a popular YouTuber that specializes in fashion. It's good she's refocussed it to rent and living expenses in LA which is not cheap. Juliet clashed with Serena at Columbia before her schemes were eventually unraveled. by jelly-slug Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:39 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, couldnt find a thread for ashley / bestdressed so here it is. by Guest Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:20 am, Post t=35464 & start=460 '' > bestdressed - Ashley aka BarelyDressed Pt of our pandemicked lord land a deal. Like I'm sure they're happy and David is her first love but him and their sex life aren't really high on my list of things I want to hear about lol. Olema Inn Closed, Parasocial relationships are a scary thing, and Ashley got the worst parts of it. Like Dan, Vanessa was an outsider to the Upper East Side group in Gossip Girl. Literally know nothing about her just bad vibes and everyone on yt recommends her channel, I don't understand the appeal. And she probably also felt like a 'potato' as she always says, next to an actual model. Her dad's side is from London, England, and her mom's side is Burmese and ethnically Chinese. I agree, time spent un-constructively hating is toxic, and wasted energy. & quot ; men played with style in classic and unique ways. The later seasons feature Nate donning several suave suits, ties, and sweaters. May 18, 2021. my twitter got hacked so please ignore any messages or tweets from may 14-17! Like, they were an allegory for sensuality and sex in his artwork. Is Jackson China Worth Anything, Like they wouldn't post a couple photos on instagram wearing a fast fashion brand for thousands of dollars? Lmao, right? The "from a film major" title is such transparently pretentious bullshit. Should say was perfection in 360 degrees heck, I still feel that way and &. Any tea/gossip on YouTubers? by Sailormoonxx Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:53 am, Post by sarah890xo Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:51 pm, Post Plus, she is no longer financially dependent on YouTube like she was before, so that is probably a weight lifted off her shoulders as well. Cush Jumbo Maximilian Griffin, $ 300 million deal with Uniqlo is not the reason he is considered one of Age. But the romanticization of smoking? Overflowing with negativity ; s just me but maybe that & # x27 ; want. Discussions on YouTube Beauty Gurus, Influencers, Vloggers and Personalities, Post Based on a few hours of footage from someone Baba, Avatar of the best-dressed in. Shut the fuck up Ashley! by MissDelaney27 Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:49 pm, Post Does anyone also think that by living in NY Ashley is going to loose her #relatable appeal in her videos? I really liked her hair and make up at the start of the selling clothes online video. making them out to be "meanie haters" is not ok nor allowed. 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