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Her murder became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Click hereto hear the Audio File of this case. We are hoping to make a BBC documentary (follow on from Dark Son) to see if we can shed any new light on the case. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. Neil Milkins. But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts had a major breakthrough when they found a semen stain on Muriel's coat. Mark Lewis by email of this fact but my email was ignored. Fingers crossed that one day a DNA match can give us the breakthrough needed to solve this case. This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. 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Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. On this occasion he was rude to me claiming that he knew nothing about any information sent to South Wales Police from D.C. Paul Rogers. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. "That sounds pompous, but I knew that really he was a simpleton, but I didn't detect any menace in him.". Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', and have uncovered a new prime suspect. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. Bethell was thrilled to discover that on the back of the coat, a no-longer visible dried semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. Bethell sent the coat toDr. Colin Dark, and over the course of three years (MUCH longer than depicted on television and in the movies) Bethell analyzed the material and was able to extract enough fragments of DNA tosuccessfully create a Y-STR profile from the semen stain. "I found the original clothing," he said. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. I personally think it was someone still in the area from the Second World war. Read about our approach to external linking. Jones was only 15 when he killed eight-year-old Freda Burnell, who'd been sent by her father to buy bird seed from the store where Jones was working. Are you able to help please? Like you I hope there is justice one day for Muriel but sadly as more and more time passes I worry that becomes less likely. Video, 00:01:28The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. Forensic historian Nell Darby found similarities in the case of Muriel Drinkwater and the later Ronnie Harries farmhouse murders in old newspaper articles from the time. It was believed a similar weapon had been used in the murder of a cinema manager in Bristol. I could never hurt anyone or anything, but in a small, close-knit community, people talk and I knew that in the eyes of some people I was the murderer. https://www.abc10.com/amp/article/news/crime/prison-inmate-accused-42-year-old-homicide-in-dixon-area/103-535ec3ad-2aa1-4d10-94a7-aafe4f6081ff, We are thrilled to announce that remains discovered in 2017 in Sanford, Maine at a building site have been identified. Hi Neil. ', Sister of murdered Idaho student Kalyee Goncalves gives birth to baby girl and gives it middle name 'MaddieKay' in tribute to her and slain best friend Maddie Mogen, CDC issues 'serious public health alert' over nationwide spike in drug-resistant stomach bug that infects half a million Americans each year, Mark Walhberg is SLAMMED for presenting SAG Award to Asian cast of Everything Everywhere All At Once following his hate crime conviction for assaulting Asian men in 1988. The police have a Y-STR profile from Muriels coat. Another wait and see. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. And shockingly the reply was that the information I requested was in written format and would take at least 16 hours at a cost of more than 450 to supply and my request was denied. [10], Police visited every house within 150 square miles and interviewed 20,000 men in Swansea and in neighbouring Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. Please let us know how it goes. Muriel Drinkwater was laying on her back, one arm outstretched by her side and the other slightly raised. She was hoping in her lifetime to find out who killed her aunt. "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. However, if it wasnt for Victor Penaluna and D.C. Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police I would have been none the wiser about the Muriel Drinkwater murder. He could not be placed at the scene, and the DNA ruled him out of the investigation. First he lived in Fulham with a former London Metropolitan Police officer John Widdows and his daughter Muriel whom he married in 1948. I really appreciate your local insights. She may or may NOT have been Jones biological daughter. But when they tested a stain on Muriel's coat it did not come up with a link to child murderer Harold Jones - who is also suspected of being a serial killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. Thank you for the update. Can you explain please. left on the coat was compared to D.N.A. The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Its amazing the documentary could screw things up so much. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. Elizabeth Muriel Greenshields Drinkwater . taken from one of Jones many nieces or nephews in Wales would prove conclusively if Jones was or was not Muriels killer. Former Detective Inspector Paul Bethell, who was in charge of South Wales Police's cold case team, explained in the documentary: "We know Muriel used to catch the school bus from the school to the gateway off the main road which led to the forestry, and then she would walk about a mile through the forestry, along the lane to the farmhouse.". The detectives in the programme got a breakthrough when they were able to track down Muriel's relative Martin Phillips, who had been six at the time of the murder. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. However, a lack of hard evidence would later see him freed. I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. This was a big news story at the time. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? More here: https://bit.ly/WoodlawnJaneDoe. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. I then appealed that decision and was shocked to be told that the information I requested had been eaten by vermin or had been damaged owing to a leaking roof. Medicaid to cut 14 MILLION Americans from health coverage as states crack down on eligibility for the first time in three years after numbers soared during COVID - so are you at risk? Psychic Diane Lazarus Investigates Muriel Drinkwater Murder - YouTube 0:00 / 21:56 Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. Some companies will provide you with upto 6 generations. This murder shook the village and all the boys came under suspicion. "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. She had been attacked on the lane and then she was dragged to where the body was left.". That DNA was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. profiling cleared Hubert who stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name.). Her eyes were wide open and her skin was deathly white. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. An amazing campaign by Neil Milkins, but unfortunately, no breakthrough for Muriel. 2023 BBC. In 2007 whilst researching for my 2008 True Crime book Every Mothers Nightmare Abertillery in Mourning, which dealt with the murders of two Abertillery school-girls in 1921, I received a surprise visit from Victor Penaluna, a cousin of the second Abertillery victim Florence Little aged 11. ", * Dark Land: Hunting the Killers is on BBC iPlayer, School friends at the grave of Muriel Drinkwater, whose murder in 1946 remains one of the most horrifying in Welsh history. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. Its her birthday tomorrow, and still no closer to finding her killer. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. Find records of Muriel Drinkwater . Also, as I understand matters, members of Muriels family have given DNA samples to ascertain whether Muriels father may have killed her. Have a great week! Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Who sodomises a 12 year old girl and batters her about the head, then shoots her twice in the chest? Even though Jones died in 1971, his male descendants DNA could be tested to determine if he was the culprit responsible for Muriels murder. Neil Milkins. They visited the Carmarthen bookshop to identify if the killers family had taken the books there. 'Each case is reviewed periodically. She said: "He came to public attention in the early 1950s when he was convicted of murdering an older couple. This was no spur of the moment event. Regards. Advertisement. will do what you suggest. "I was about nine at the time and he was about twice my age, but I felt, at nine, that I was his intellectual superior," he said. There are far too many retired people out there who want to write books about unsolved murders, trawling through these records and coming up with half-baked theories.. Those who have not failed may not have succeeded. Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. However, in 2008, a team of retired detectives investigating cold cases found Drinkwater's clothes in storage. This will enable the police to identify Muriels murderer by taking and testing swabs from the perpetrators sons, grandsons, or even great-grandsons. Im not sure how much of a farming business the family had or if they just casually sold eggs like many people in the country do. Evernote. What a big moment in this case! Some people turn to the murder weapon for answers and suggest that the killer was either an American serviceman who had previously been stationed at Penllergaer or that an American soldier may have sold the gun to the perpetrator in the village. Business class plane passenger refuses to give up his seat so a man could sit next to his wife on her birthday - selfish or fair enough? Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. On the back of the coat, a no-longer-visible semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. Hi Neil. [4], More than 3,000 mourners attended Drinkwater's funeral on 2 July. Video, 00:01:18Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, One-minute World News. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Perhaps one day then there'll still be justice for Muriel Drinkwater - even if it might have to stretch beyond the grave. Psychic Diane Lazarus. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample . Video, 00:02:56, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Thanks again for sharing this. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946 Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little. I have informed South Wales Police regarding this information to save them a fortune on a wild goose chase trying to extract D.N.A. Although he was first registered at Widdows Fulham address at Hestercombe Avenue in 1947 as Harold Jones, the following years and up until 1962 he was registered as Harry Stevens. [9] Detectives from Scotland Yard came to Swansea to assist in the investigation. South Wales Police detectives requested the original case file from Kent Police to determine if there was a connection. Something went wrong, please try again later. Video, 00:01:20, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. Why on earth would the police continue to stonewall after all these decades? Martyn Lloyd-Evans again regarding the letter from D.C.Paul Rogers. Well here is the TRUTH. Will do Christine. Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. They pieced together evidence from the time, used new forensic breakthroughs and links to other cases in the area to identify who they think murdered Muriel in the most horrific way. Importantly, though, the DNA results cleared Hoyles of any involvement in Muriels murder. profiling. In a Welsh village during the summer of 1946, a 12-year-old girl is brutally murdered. Chief Inspector Bethell aptly explains, Re-opening the case is as much about proving who didnt do it, as who did. Remember that Hoyles was suspected of Muriels murder for decades and lived under a cloud suspicion that followed him everywhere he travelled in his small village. Muriel was murdered 16 years before I was born, but it was a story I had heard from a young age. 4th daughter born to Lilian and Charles Herbert Irvine in Liverpool. There are, of course, other theories regarding who was lying in wait on that fateful day. We can also deduce it is a average male because he must have had enough power to dominate a 12 year old girl. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater (left) might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer Harold Jones when she was raped and murdered in 1946. They have a suspect in the murder case and a cousin of the suspect has given D.N.A to prove whether or not the cousin Ron Harries was the killer. Forensic scientist Dr Colin Dark said that the stain had been found on the lower flap of Muriel's coat. "This was a terrible, terrible crime that someone has got away with for too long. As you know it is not possible to prove whether Harold Jones was Muriels killer by D.N.A testing Jones daughter. Muriel Drinkwater - Swansea, 1946 On 27th June 1946, Margaret Drinkwater was making tea in the family farm house in Penllegaer near Swansea when she looked out of the window to see her daughter . She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. Trump rages at Mark Zuckerberg amid claims group linked to Facebook boss gave $2 million to Georgia elections board - and says Dems are 'trying to steal a SECOND election'. On 28 June 2021, I sent the following Freedom of Information Request to South Wales Police. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. I contacted Detective Superintendent Martyn Lloyd-Evans (now retired) of South Wales Police by phone and had a friendly conversation with him about Victor Penalunas suspicions. "South Wales Police has had considerable success with cold case reviews being one of the first forces in the country to set up a review team in 1999 to conduct cold case reviews. Neil. Muriel Drinkwater was born on January 12, 1906 in New York . I would like to request an internal review of (an adverse) decision made by South Wales Police regarding information I requested on 28-6-21. During the course of the investigation the finger of blame had sometimes been pointed at Muriel's father, John. I guess a DNA test of Sheila Martin must have been taken to see if it was the same person. On the afternoon of Muriels murder, thirteen-year-old Hoyles purchased eggs from Muriels mother at their family farm. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Moments before being brutally attacked, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater had waved to her mother, who stood at the kitchen window, as she made her way home from Gowerton High School along the long path that led to the family home. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. I was able to edit the comment for you before it went live. Muriel's death was known at the time as the Little Red Riding Hood Murder because of the bright red coat she was wearing. The 73-year-old stain was discovered during a cold case review in 2003 and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of evidence in the world. Was a local stalking Muriel? The new B.B.C. And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. Video, 00:02:56Detectives to revisit unsolved murder, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Regards. If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. [8][4] Policemen from Glamorgan, assisted by the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit, used a metal detector to search for a second weapon suspected to have been used, but never located it. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Margaret went out into the yard and her and Muriel exchanged waves. And we appreciate your dogged determination to get to the bottom of what happened. . "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. Muriel Drinkwater Muriel Drinkwater (born 1906) Jump to: Bio graphy Family Photos Comments Obit uary. Hi Christine. Thanks again and take care. I had informed him that Harold Jones had been living incognito in various West London locations after his release from prison in 1941. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. I think it was suggested that the police thought that the family knew more than they were letting on. She was sexually assaulted and strangled and last seen with an American soldier. I received the following letter from D.C. Paul Rogers on 6 December 2007. The coat had been lying forgotten in police storage for decades but after much searching was found by retired DCI Bethell's cold case team and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world. On 30 March 2010 the Times Online quoted an unnamed police source with South Wales Police as saying: We have a real problem with amateur sleuths in this area. ~ Christine. Up Next. It was the first time he had spoken publicly about the tragedy that haunts his family to this day. Hi Neil. The path she walked home on curved in and out of the woods; her mother saw her walking home along the path and into the woods, but not come out again. Her parents Harold and Muriel Jones/Stevens kept a lot of secrets from this daughter one of which may be that she wasnt Harolds daughter. Happier times: Alex Murdaugh, Maggie and their sons are the picture-perfect family in never-before-seen photos taken on a hunting trip just a few years before brutal slayings, 'Why isn't he being prosecuted?' It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Talk about a case hitting close to home for you! 'All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as 'cold cases,' are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. "[14][5], In 2020, the BBC One documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers suggested that Ronnie Harries could be the murderer. She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). We know 100% that it is the killer's stain. Some time after speaking to D.S Lloyd-Evans, D.N.A. "Each case is reviewed periodically. Edith Patten had been buried in the old town cemetery and was left behind when officials relocated the graves in the 1930s. "Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule him out completely as a suspect in this case. [7], The next day, Drinkwater's body was found in the woods by a police inspector.
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